Quad Kiting?Wie mache ich das am besten?
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Di 16 Jul, 2002 11:49
von Tilluni
So nun da meine kleine so weit ist das sie ans Quad Kiting denken kann,sind noch Fragen bei mir aufgekommen.Da ich nicht unbedingt beim ersten Versuch ganz gefaerhlich auf den Deckel bekommen mag <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START
--><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> .<br><br>Also ich weiss das ich einen Area Spell brauche (wäre dann der 34ér Lighting Strike) und dann casten muss und immer im Kreis laufen muss.Frage nun:Root und Snare fallen weg?Weil es doch sinnvoll wäre die Mobs vorher zu snaren,weil ich dann mit meinen kleinen Beinen doch evt. eine Chance habe das hinzubekommen <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START
--><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> .<br>Wie schaut es mit einem Dot aus bei der Unternehmung?<br><br>Hoffe das mir da jemand auf die Sprünge helfen kann <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START
--><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Greetings *bow* <br>Tilluni <p><table border="0" width="513"> <tr> <td width="90"><b>written by</b></td> </tr><tr> <td width="90"><b>RealLife</b></td> <td width="150">Jessy</td><td width="100"></td><td width="270"><a href="mailto:Shibumi@teleos-web.de">Shibumi@teleos-web.de</a></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="90"><b>EverQuest</b></td> <td width="150">Tilluni Tipplefoot (Druidin)</td> <td width="100"></td> <td width="270"> </td> </tr><td width="90"><b></b></td> <td width="150"></td> <td width="100"></td> </tr></table></p><i></i>
Re: Quad Kiting?Wie mache ich das am besten?
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Di 16 Jul, 2002 14:26
von Chili
Da ich selbst als Warrior mit Kiting absolut keine Erfahrung haben hier die Kopie eines englischen Guides zu diesem Thema.<br><br>Der Guide ist auch unter: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.eqdruids.com/tactics/tactics_quadkiting.htm">www.eqdruids.com/tactics/...kiting.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>verfügbar.<br><br>Guide to Quad Kiting<br><br>Adapted from the original guide written by Sindail Swiftrunner<br><br>Quad Kiting, simply put, is using area effect direct damage spells to take down four mobs simultaneously.<br><br>While this may sound easy, in truth, it requires a high level of skill and practice to "quad" effectively. Often, quad kiting requires a druid's entire mana pool, and will result in significant downtime. However, the experience gained is extraordinary.<br><br>Mana-free items, such as the Luminescent Staff can greatly reduce the amount of mana used per quad.<br><br>The zone and type of target can also affect your success in quad kiting. Some zones have too many wandering mobs. Some mobs have too many hitpoints, or have a high magic resistance.<br><br>Quad Kiting can technically begin at level 5, using the spell Invoke Lightning. However, it is recommended that you wait until you obtain Lightning Strike at level 34 (or later) to begin quad kiting. By then, your mana pool is much larger, and you have the use of Ensnare at level 29.<br><br>The following AoE spells can be used in quad kiting: <br><br>Spell Name Damage Spell Level Cast Time <br>Invoke Lightning 21 - 25 Level 5 2.5 sec <br>Lightning Strike 173 - 185 Level 34 4.5 sec <br>Lightning Blast 477 Level 49 6.1 sec <br>Fist of Karana 812 Level 58 6.0 sec <br><br>Note: All spells are outdoor-only. Do not use "Rain" type spells for quad kiting.<br><br><br>The key to using these spells effectively is making sure that all of the targets are grouped fairly close together (they should almost be on top of each other). This is rather simple to do with a little bit of practice. Here are some general tips for grouping mobs:<br><br>Assuming the targets are side by side, harmony them and pull one with snare. Get him far enough away from the other so you can go back to the one still sitting there and then pull him with snare. Repeat this for all four targets, then run circles around them until they are sufficiently grouped together, and kite away. <br> <br>Say you have a target at 9:00 and 3:00. Get within casting distance of both if possible. Target the first and pull with snare. Then turn and do the same with the second. As they advance on you, slowly walk backwards keeping them and yourself in a "V" type formation. With them at the tips of the "V" and you at the intersection where the lines meet. As they draw closer to you they will close the distance between themselves. Once they are close enough together, kite away. <br> <br>This is another good way. Especially for those who may not have enough mana to kite more than one mob efficiently. (Best used with the "V" formation example above) Once you have meditated to full, cast regenerate on yourself. Then med back up to full mana. Then cast your second damage shield on yourself, then either med to full again, or pull if you are ready. Let all targets close in on you and hit you a couple of times. This has 2 advantages: <br>Gets both targets side by side. <br>Does a little bit of damage to each that may save you having to cast a last DD spell on them.<br> <br><br>There are lots of other ways to do this.<br><br>Most often, you will have to go find a target, and snare it. Then find another target that runs at the same speed, and snare that one. Repeat until you have four targets snared. Run away from the targets and either run in Y pattern, or encircle them until you have them bunched up tight (they should almost look like one target). Then run a safe distance from them and cast your best area affect spell. Continue to cast it until they are dead.<br><br>You should experiment and find whatever method works best for you.<br><br>Some things to keep in mind using this method:<br><br>Always keep the targets close together. IF they get separated during the fight, stand directly in the center of the 2 and slowly back away as the get closer. this will draw them back together. If you are kiting more than 2 and this happens, draw 2 of them together, the repeat the process above to get the 3rd back in the group. <br> <br>Targets need to run at the same speed when snared. This makes it easy to keep them grouped together. <br> <br>Lightning Strike takes a lot of mana to cast, and is not really mana efficient for the damage it does. For best mana / damage efficiency you will need 3 or more targets. <br> <br>Med a little early on in the kite if you think you will need it later on. It is easier to med a bit with 4 snared mobs than to be running and wishing you had enough mana to resnare or blast that last mob that resisted your AoE's. <br> <br>Before you get all gung ho and go trying to kill 4 mobs at once, try this out on a single target first. See how much mana it will take you to kill it, and how much you have left over. IF you have to med to much during the battle, it might be best to wait for your next lvl, or until you get another good WIS increasing item. <br> <br>Keep in mind that just because you can kill 2 at a time, does not mean that you can take 3 or 4 effectively. Because of the low damage of the spell, it takes longer to kill, and you will most probably have to resnare each target during battle. (I usually do this at 1/2 mana just to be safe) You also have to factor in resists. If more than 1 target resists a large portion of the damage, or resists a blast completely, this could lead to problems when going to finish them off. <br> <br>To reduce the amount of downtime, keep self-buffs to a minimum. <br> <br>Be considerate of other people. Yes you can solo. Yes, you are a well oiled machine. Yes you are an exp machine. BUT do not step on any other people/groups to quad. I mean, do not go to the snow cougar camp and grab your 4 mobs and run away if there are 75 other people there camping snow cougars. Most times there are other places to go, and after all , we are the masters of travel. <br> <br>This style of kiting is not very suitable for Tag Team kiting. It's efficiency is based on keeping the targets together. With someone helping you or healing you in battle, this may distract one of the targets and end up splitting them up. Forcing the one assisting you to keep right by your side for the possibly the rest of the battle. Causing him to get in the way of retargeting the mobs for you to resnare, etc.... <br> <br>These spells also have a high casting time. So you need plenty of distance to cast it. I have found that running as soon as the casting meter disappears, until the spell icon resets for another cast, is enough time to get the distance you need. <br> <br>Because of the time needed to cast the spell, and the distance needed to cast it safely, it's a good idea to resnare each of the mobs you are kiting once you get to 1/2 mana during the fight. <br><br>The spell line up I primarily use is as follows: <br><br>Greater healing <br>Regeneration <br>Shield of brambles <br>Lightning strike <br>Combust (or Firestrike when you get it) <br>Gate <br>Drones of Doom or Drifting death (if the last one standing is stunned you can DOT and med while he dies) <br>Ensnare<br> <p><table border="0" width="513"> <tr> <td width="85"><b>written by</b></td> </tr><tr> <td width="85"><b>RealLife</b></td> <td width="150">Torsten Raithel</td><td width="100">(Board-Admin)</td><td width="270"><a href="mailto:torsten.raithel@tark-online.de">torsten.raithel@tark-online.de</a></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="85"><b>EverQuest</b></td> <td width="150">Ghumb Inyourway (Oger-Krieger)</td> <td width="100">Leonore (Elfenbardin)</td> <td width="270"> </td> </tr><td width="85"><b>UltimaOnline</b></td> <td width="150">Eleonora (Barde)</td> <td width="100"></td> </tr></table></p><i></i>
Re: Quad Kiting?Wie mache ich das am besten?
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Di 16 Jul, 2002 17:42
von Ahlanah
----<br>To reduce the amount of downtime, keep self-buffs to a minimum.<br>----<br><br>das ist meiner persoenlichen meinung nach einer der schlechtesten tips die man geben kann, man sollte wenn moeglich immer maximale hp und ac buffs haben. es ist zwar richtig, dass dies die downtime erhoeht, du wirst jedoch ab und an in die lage gebracht werden (lag, unvorsichtigkeit, trains, usw...) dass dich 4 target gleichzeitig zwischen 70 und 120 doublen, je nachdem was du quaddest. hp und ac sind hierbei immer gut, nimm dir lieber das etwas mehr an zeit, wenn du starke mana buffs hast und evtl wenig downtime, kannst du dir sogar einen regenspell und ein ds draufhauen, aber das ist nicht zwingend noetig.<br><br>quadden ist definitv die schnellste art exp zu machen, wichtig ist nur, das richtige camp mit den richtigen mobs zur richtigen zeit zu belegen und du wirst wie irre leveln.<br><br>insidia <p></p><i></i>
Re: Quad Kiting?Wie mache ich das am besten?
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Di 16 Jul, 2002 19:31
von Ranma
algemeine sachen :<br>ich rate wolfform an, da diese viel laenger haelt, kann aber auch gefaehrlich sein<br>immer skin like xx (hps und AC) drauf haben und xxxcoat (AC und DS)<br>wenn man schaden bekommen hat einen regen in der downtime draufhauen<br><br>ich habe folgendes gekitet:<br><br>lvl 35 bis 45 (hier bin ich mir mit den lvln net mehr sicher) ulthorks/walrusses in Eastern Wastes ( loc ~1000/0 )<br>Bemerkungen : <br>-versuche nicht zu mischen, der pull sollte moeglichst nur aus ulthorks oder walrusses bestehen, da die walrusses schneller sind<br>-die walruss stinger oder wie die heissen behalten, da man die nem npc abgeben kann und questgems bekommt (hat nagul gesagt)<br><br>lvl 45 bis 50 : dwolfrags (oder wie die auch immer heissen) in DL ( Naehe R1 bzw R3 )<br>ich war glaub ich einer der einzigen, der das machte, hab sonst nie jemand anderen gesehen<br>Bemerkungen :<br>-pass auf dass du andere groups net trainest ( ist verdammt schwer )<br>-versuche den pull zwischen ruin 1 und 2 zu bekommen, da hat es selten leute und es wird keine adds geben<br>-hier hats es oft enchanter -> crack -> downtime viel kuerzer<br>-es lohnt auch sich im nexus bzw bazaar zu binden, dort c3 besorgen ( hält 2h 45 min ) und DL gaten und kiten<br><br>lvl 50 bis ?? wyvern in Cobalt Scar<br>Bemerkungen :<br>-fast dauernd uebercampt<br>-aufpassen auf die named, am bessen erst harmony casten<br>-aufpassen auf die cobalt drakes, haben nen DD mit debuff, der meist , oder immer sow debuffed<br>-yvolc.... der wyvern named : unsnare und unrootbar -> rennen und zonen/gaten<br>-azureake named Cobalt drake : hat wie alle cobalt drake einen DD mit debuff, 500 dmg schaden -> rennen und gaten oder rooten und gaten<br>-mobs droppen quest gems und cashgems -> man verdient auch net schlecht ( nur die cash gems geben in lvl 51 so ~ 3 bis 5k)<br> <p><p>Written by<table border="0" width="527" cellspacing="1"> <tr> <td width="56" align="left"><b>RL</b></td> <td width="15%" align="left">Mathias</td> <td width="15%" align="left"></td> <td width="15%" align="left"></td> <td width="270" align="left"><a href="mailto:chuech@gmx.net">chuech@gmx.net</a></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="56" align="left"><b>UO</b></td> <td width="15%" align="left">Oso</td> <td width="15%" align="left">Chimera</td> <td width="15%" align="left">Pardona</td> <td width="270" align="left">Lilôe Shadowmoon</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="56" align="left"><b>EQ</b></td> <td width="15%" align="left">Nyrion</td> <td width="15%" align="left">Gensei</td> <td width="15%" align="left">Syliaa</td> <td width="270" align="left">Sandynar</td> </tr></table></p><i></i>