Patch 4.2 auf (dem Weg zu) dem PTR

[Cyan]

Fire in the Hole!!!

[Numenator]

Healshm und Baum mit reichlich resilience sind eine pain in the ass.
Man nuked sie für max 10k , die haben 120-140k hp und man kann sie maximal 10 sek am Heilen hindern (zumindets in unserer Kombo)
Mana drain und perma nukes ziehen ihn schnell OOM, und innerhalb von 5 sek hat der wieder 10% mana, da bekomm ich Ausschlag wo sonst keine Sonne hinkommt
Dann rennens wie deppert um die Säulen und die Hots ticken, die ich mir zwar klau, aber das reicht das die Sau ned down geht!

Mah da gabs das eine oder andere Match, da bekam ich einen Schreikrampf, im endeffekt haben wirs eh gwonnen, aber das is sooooooooooo mühsam, vorallem das rennt solange bis du zum 2ten oder 3ten mal deine Cooldowns zünden kannst...
Für PvP Experimente bin ich zu haben mit Zydonia, ich rüst sie grad PvP nach

2vs2 und 3vs3 is bei Numen vergeben
Zydonia hat gar kein Team und wenig Erfahrung im Rogue PvP, was sich aber schleunigst ändern soll

Gruß
Tidoc

[madtom]

Also um ehrlich zu sein ist das auch eine Frage des DD der das tut, mim Oargen sind Shm und Baum deutlich angenehmer als ein Pally.

[Minyatur Laurelin]

Blacksmiths könnten schon mal wieder anfangen Chaos Orbs zu sammeln

Mit 4.2. können wir dann eine Tankwaffe bauen:
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=70171/plans ... hes-recipe

Das AGI wird im nächsten Build durch STR ersetzt und statt HIT kommt PARRY drauf.

[Giliat]

Patch 4.2 PTR Notes Update - May 24th
Originally Posted by Blizzard

Dungeons & Raids

Bastion of Twilight

The damage modifier on Normal has been reduced for Arion, Elementium Monstrosity, Feludius, Ignacius, and Terrastra.
Removed one of each type of Bound elemental from the Ascendant Council chamber.
Arion
Chain Lightning damage has been reduced.
Cho’gall
Health, melee damage, Health of Corrupting Adherent, Depravity damage, Corrupting Crash damage, Flaming Destruction damage, and Unleashed Shadows damage has all been reduced by 20%.
Corrupting Crash and Depravity
Halved the amount of Corruption they give to 5 from 10.
Corrupted Bite effect caused by Blood of the Old God reduced.
Damage Taken from Corruption of the Old God per Corrupted Blood has been reduced from 3% per stack to 2% per stack.
Debilitating Beam damage has been reduced by 20% to 6,400.
The duration of Twisted Devotion has been reduced by 25%.
Dragon Siblings
Health, melee damage, Twilight Meteorite damage, Devouring Flames, Blackout damage, Unstable Twilight damage, Twilight Zone damage, Twilight Blast damage, Fabulous Flames damage, has all been reduced by 20%.
Elementium Monstrosity
Electrical Instability damage has been reduced.
Feludius
Damage due to being Frozen while Waterlogged has been reduced.
Halfus
Health, melee damage, Fireball/Fireball Barrage damage, Furious Roar damage, Scorching Breath damage, Shadow Nova damage, has all been reduced by 20%.
Nether Scion, Slate Dragon, Storm Rider, Time Warden, and Orphaned Emerald Whelp health has been reduced by 20%.
Shadow Nova base cast time has been increased.
Ignacious
Rising Flames now increases damage by 3% per stack, down from 5%.
Terrastra
Harden Skin now increases Physical damage dealt by 20% (down from 100%.)


Blackwing Descent

Atramedes
Health, melee damage, modulation damage, Roaring Flame Breath damage, and Searing Flame damage has all been reduced by 20%.
Modulation no longer causes Sound in normal difficulty.
Sound given by Sonar Pulse has been reduced to 3 (from 5.)
Chimaeron
Health reduced by 20% and melee damage reduced by 10%.
Chimaeron will now only cast two caustic slimes per 30 second cycle, at second 17 and second 23.
Drakeadon Mongrel
Time Lapse no longer stuns.
Frost Burn silence is now 3 seconds
Dwarven Kings
Whirlwind no longer drops threat.
Execution sentence now deals damage only.
Shield of Light absorption now reduced.
Magmaw
Damage and hit points reduced by 20%.
Lava Parasites have been diminished
Lava Spew damage, Magma Spit damage, Massive Crash damage, and Infectious Vomit damage have all been been reduced.
Mangled Lifeless no longer instantly kills, and damage has been reduced.
Parasitic Infection has been decreased.
Maloriak
Health, damage, Aberation health/damage, Arcane Storm damage, Prime Subject damage, Flash Freeze/Shatter damage, and Scorching Blast damage has all been decreased by 20%.
Aberration stacking damage buff decreased.
Prime Subjects no longer fixate, and are no longer immune to taunt.
Nefarian
Animated Bone Warriors take 33 seconds to fall over, (down from 50.)
Blast Nova cast time increased.
Chromatic Prototype Health reduced 20%.
Electrocute damage reduced 30%.
Fewer Animated Bone warriors spawn.
Magma Stacking debuff effect reduced 75%.
Nefarian health and melee damage reduced by 20%.
Nefarian's Shadowblaze cast frequency cannot increase beyond 1 per 15 sec.
Onyxia health and melee damage reduced by 20%.
Shadowflame Barrage damage reduced 20%.
Tail Lash damage reduced 50%.
Omnotron Council
Barrier absorb amount increased by 100%.
Increased the cooldown on Power Conversion (Converted Power chance).
Health, Melee damage, Electrical Discharge damage, Lightning Conductor damage, Health of Poison Bomb, Incineration Security Measure damage, Arcane Annihilator damage, has all been reduced by 20%.
Flamethrower damage has been reduced by 40%.
Static Shock caused by Unstable Shield damage and Poison Bomb damage has been decreased by 50%.


Throne of the Four Winds

Al’Akir
Acid Rain now stacks every 20s (up from 15s.)
Electrocute now pulses every 1s (up from 0.5s.)
Feedback duration increased to 30s (from 20s.)
Health, damage, and Wind Burst damage have all been reduced 20%.
Lightning and Lightning Rod recast time has been increased.
Lightning Strike friendly chain damage has been halved.
Will no longer use Static Shock on normal difficulty in phase 1 or phase 2.
Conclave of the Four Winds
Gathering Strength cast time has been increased
Ice Patch slow is now 5% per stack, up to 10 stacks (down from 10% per stack, up to 30 stacks), damage reduced by 20%.
Rohash, Anshal, Nezir melee, Ravenous Creeper health/damage, Ravenous Creeper toxic spores damage, Hurricane damage, Sleet Storm damage , Permafrost damage , Slicing Gale, and Wind Blast damage have all been reduced by 20%.
Wind Chill damage decreased by 20%and now increases damage taken by 5% per stack.


Classes: General

Dodge: Death Knights, paladins, and warriors no longer receive any bonus to their chance to dodge from Agility. Their base chance to dodge is now a fixed 5%.
Parry: Death Knights, paladins, and warriors now receive 27% of their Strength bonuses as parry rating, up from 25%. This conversion still only applies to Strength above and beyond their base Strength.


Mage

Pyroblast: The version of this spell cast when Hot Streak is not active did slightly less damage than the Hot Streak version. Its damage has been increased so that both versions of Pyroblast now do the same amount of damage.
Spellsteal mana cost has been increased 100%.


Fire

Impact: When Living Bomb is spread via this talent, it will only be spread to two additional targets. The net effect is that if the Mage’s most recent Living Bomb target is the same as their Impact target, that target will no longer lose the Living Bomb effect. If Living Bomb is active on multiple targets when the Impact effect is cast, Living Bomb will remain active on the most recent Living Bomb target, and will be added to two other nearby targets.


Frost

Deep Freeze and Ring of Frost will now cause diminishing returns for each other.
Ring of Frost now has a 1.5-second cast time.
Spellsteal now has a 6-second cooldown.


Paladin (Forums / Talent Calculator / Skills/Talents)

Seal of Righteousness – now can be proc’d by any melee ability, not just single target melee abilities. This adds Hammer of the Righteous (the physical component) and Divine Storm to the list of abilities that can proc it. In addition, Seal of Righteousness procs can now crit.


Holy

Walk in the Light now improves Word of Glory healing by 30% in addition to its current effects.


Protection

Guardian of Ancient Kings now uses the ‘Assist’ pet stance functionality.


Retribution

Seals of Command: This talent now makes Seal of Righteousness hit an unlimited number of melee targets, instead of only 2 additional targets.


Glyphs

Glyph of Seal of Truth: The expertise bonus granted by this glyph now also works when Seal of Righteousness is active.


Priest (Forums / Talent Calculator / Skills/Talents)

Shadowfiend now uses the ‘Assist’ pet stance functionality.


Shadow

Sin and Punishment’s Vampiric Touch backlash Fear effect no longer has diminishing returns.


Items
Tier 11 Set Bonuses

Restoration druid Tier 11 2-Piece: This set bonus has been redesigned to work with the new Restoration druid mastery. Druids with this bonus now receive the bonus to Spirit while the Harmony mastery bonus to periodic healing is active.


Tier 12 Set Bonuses

Hunter 4P: The effect which makes Shots cost no focus now also makes Kill Command cost no focus.
Mage 2P: This set bonus can now also be triggered by Frostfire Bolt.
Mage 4P: The portion of this bonus referring to Arcane Missiles have been removed. Instead, the set bonus now makes Arcane Power reduce the cost of Mage spells by 10% instead of increasing their cost.


PvP
Arenas

The Ring of Valor has been added to the Arena rotation once again.

Überschlagen zusammengefasst:
Sämtliche derzeitigen Raidentcounter werden um circa 20% abgeschwächt.

Alle derzeitigen Patchnotes zu 4.2 gibts hier: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2723732

[madtom]

Also spätestens mit den Änderungen snid die 3 Bosse dann recht schnell down. (entspricht dann dem 20% buff in ICC)

[Hinatá]

aber halt erst mit 4.2
bis dahin wärs scho a hit wemma wenigstens nef, die ersten heroicbosse und evtl sogar den luft ferdl schaffen..
poppes richtung online heut plx!

[Giliat]

poppes richtung online heut plx!

INC!

[Giliat]

Raid Instance Nerf in Patch 4.2 only applies to Normal
Of course, keep in mind, the nerfs that were announced only apply to Normal. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Justice Points in "Old" Normal Raid Instance in patch 4.2
Normals will drop JP, Heroics will drop Valor.

Cataclysm Raid Difficulty Progression
I think the biggest issue now is that Cataclysm didn't launch with an intro raid tier. We're now following through with the stair-step method of having one hard raid and one intro raid, but it took a while to see the plan through -- which is obviously a bit jarring. So now we have a new tier, VP converts to JP, the old tier gets stepped down and the new hotness is going to be that difficult climb.

I think if we had the intro tier/hard tier available (as we will in 4.2) when the expansion first launched it would feel more natural now to see that stair step just moving forward. With the current setup it seems like we're the bad guys going in and messing with your stuff, and that view is somewhat based on not really including the new harder tier in the equation since it's not available yet. It's just not going to be an issue when the new content is available, but for now it's something to make observations and personal declarations about. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Firelands Difficulty
If you've completed Blackwing Descent/Bastion of Twilight then you should focus on Firelands (you're ready to step up), but if you haven't yet seen most or any of BWD/BoT we want to make sure you're able to as soon as 4.2 comes out - not spend weeks running dungeons and grabbing the new gear before you can start progressing.

The content has been out quite a while, there's no reason to make people wait and spend even more time running dungeons to grab the new gear before they can start on raid content they haven't seen yet.

Quelle von beidem: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/231 ... aily-Blink

[Giliat]

Hier die Art und Weise, wie mit den tapferkeits- und gerechtigkeitspunkten ab Patch 4.2 umgegangen wird:

- Old epic ilvl 359/"Valor" gear is now available from the Justice Points vendor at the same prices.
- "Old" rare/Justice Points gear is still for sale at the same price.
- When Patch 4.2 is released, your existing Valor Points will be converted to Justice Points.
- Normal versions of Bastion of Twilight, Blackwing Descent, and Throne of the Four Winds will be nerfed and will only reward Justice Points.

Also 359er Epics für normale Instanzen...
T11 nonheri Raids geben nur noch gerechtigkeitspunkten.
Von heroischen Instanzen steht da Aber nichts... Gibts da Weiterhin valor Points?

Im Prinzip kann man sagen:
- die derzeitigen Valore Points muss man nicht vor 4.2 ausgeben. Man kann danach noch immer das gleiche mit ihnen kaufen.
- alle raidinstanzen, die wir bisher besucht haben, werden abgeschwächt. In jeglicher Hinsicht! Sowohl was Schwierigkeit als auch erreichen der Belohnungen angeht.
Mit Patch 4.2 kann sich jeder, der in normalen 333er Instanzen geht unser derzeitiges equip kaufen.

Ich betone hier nochmals meine Einstellung:
Items sind nur Pixel und Mittel zum Zweck.
Aber es frustriert ein wenig, dass unsere Arbeit, die wir reingesteckt haben, um diese items zu erreichen jetzt für zukünftige so reduziert wird.
Raids entwickelt sich Noch mehr zu einmal benutztem wegwerf-content.

[Knuff]

Hmnojo - es ist halt so wie es immer ist. Nach einer Weile wird der Content generft, damit alle etwas davon haben. Finde ich nicht schlecht. Dafür kommt ja neuer Content dazu, der neues Gear bietet und neue Anreize. Schließlich rennt der aktuelle Content auch schon fast ein halbes Jahr jetzt.

Bin auch froh, wenn sich die Twinks bissi leichter ausstatten lassen und da sich vielleicht auch mal ein entspannter Twinkraid ausgeht (noch entspannter als bisher ).

[Hinatá]

naja so gesehen hängen wir ziemlich weit hinten an was den content angeht. wemma halbwegs dabei wären wäre unser ilvl 371 und 359 wäre wurscht
naja, vllt liegen uns die encounter in 4.2 besser... wobei der phönix scho wieder nach sehr...sehr..sehr.. vielen wipes ausschaut.

[Chuly]

PvP
Arenas

The Ring of Valor has been added to the Arena rotation once again.

Oh Gott.... bitte nicht >:

[Giliat]

Patch 4.2 - Heroic Item Upgrades
The latest PTR build of Patch 4.2 finally allowed us to understand the use of the Crystallized Firestone dropped by all Firelands boss in heroic mode.

Upgrade Weapons and Relics from the Patch 4.2 Valor Points Vendor to heroic quality.
Upgrade Weapons and armors from the Firelands raid to heroic quality. Since they aren't listed in the loot table of any boss I will assume they're trash loot but I could be wrong.


To buy the upgraded version of an item, you will need the normal version of the item and 1 Crystallized Firestone.

Quelle: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/232 ... Kill-Video

Juhu, mehr Items, die wir während des Raids verteilen müssen -.-

PS: und Ragnaros ist auf dem PTR im 25er gelegt worden.

[Mallfin]

Das Dungeon Journal Interface gefällt - endlich was zu lesen während der wipepausen.
Va. die Hinweise wie "Deadly, Important, Interruptible und Magic" auf den Bossskills sind recht fein.

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